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  • Why automating human labour will break our political system | Rose Hadshar, Forethought
    Mar 17 2026

    The most important political question in the age of advanced AI might not be who wins elections. It might be whether elections continue to matter at all.

    That’s the view of Rose Hadshar, researcher at Forethought, who believes we could see extreme, AI-enabled power concentration without a coup or dramatic ‘end of democracy’ moment.

    She foresees something more insidious: an elite group with access to such powerful AI capabilities that the normal mechanisms for checking elite power — law, elections, public pressure, the threat of strikes — cease to have much effect. Those mechanisms could continue to exist on paper, but become ineffectual in a world where humans are no longer needed to execute even the largest-scale projects.

    Almost nobody wants this to happen — but we may find ourselves unable to prevent it.

    If AI disrupts our ability to make sense of things, will we even notice power getting severely concentrated, or be able to resist it? Once AI can substitute for human labour across the economy, what leverage will citizens have over those in power? And what does all of this imply for the institutions we’re relying on to prevent the worst outcomes?

    Rose has answers, and they’re not all reassuring.

    But she’s also hopeful we can make society more robust against these dynamics. We’ve got literally centuries of thinking about checks and balances to draw on. And there are some interventions she’s excited about — like building sophisticated AI tools for making sense of the world, or ensuring multiple branches of government have access to the best AI systems.

    Rose discusses all of this, and more, with host Zershaaneh Qureshi in today’s episode.

    Links to learn more, video, and full transcript: https://80k.info/rh

    This episode was recorded on December 18, 2025.

    Chapters:

    • Cold open (00:00:00)
    • Who's Rose Hadshar? (00:01:05)
    • Three dynamics that could reshape political power in the AI era (00:02:37)
    • AI gives small groups the productive power of millions (00:12:49)
    • Dynamic 1: When a software update becomes a power grab (00:20:41)
    • Dynamic 2: When AI labour means governments no longer need their citizens (00:31:20)
    • How democracy could persist in name but not substance (00:45:15)
    • Dynamic 3: When AI filters our reality (00:54:54)
    • Good intentions won't stop power concentration (01:08:27)
    • Slower-moving worlds could still get scary (01:23:57)
    • Why AI-powered tyranny will be tough to topple (01:31:53)
    • How power concentration compares to "gradual disempowerment" (01:38:18)
    • Some interventions are cross-cutting — and others could backfire (01:43:54)
    • What fighting back actually looks like (01:55:15)
    • Why power concentration researchers should avoid getting too "spicy" (02:04:10)
    • Why the "Manhattan Project" approach should worry you — but truly international projects might not be safe either (02:09:18)
    • Rose wants to keep humans around! (02:12:06)

    Video and audio editing: Dominic Armstrong, Milo McGuire, Luke Monsour, and Simon Monsour
    Music: CORBIT
    Coordination, transcripts, and web: Nick Stockton and Katy Moore

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    2 horas e 14 minutos
  • AI Won't End Mutually Assured Destruction (Probably) | Sam Winter-Levy & Nikita Lalwani
    Mar 10 2026

    How AI interacts with nuclear deterrence may be the single most important question in geopolitics — one that may define the stakes of today’s AI race. Nuclear deterrence rests on a state’s capacity to respond to a nuclear attack with a devastating nuclear strike of its own. But some theorists think that sophisticated AI could eliminate this capability — for example, by locating and destroying all of an adversary’s nuclear weapons simultaneously, by disabling command-and-control networks, or by enhancing missile defence systems. If they are right, whichever country got those capabilities first could wield unprecedented coercive power.

    Today’s guests — Nikita Lalwani and Sam Winter-Levy of the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace — assess how advances in AI might threaten nuclear deterrence:

    • Would AI be able to locate nuclear submarines hiding in a vast, opaque ocean?
    • Would road-mobile launchers still be able to hide in tunnels and under netting?
    • Would missile defence become so accurate that the United States could be protected under something like Israel’s Iron Dome?
    • Can we imagine an AI cybersecurity breakthrough that would allow countries to infiltrate their rivals’ nuclear command-and-control networks?

    Yet even without undermining deterrence, Sam and Nikita claim that AI could make the nuclear world far more dangerous. It could spur arms races, encourage riskier postures, and force dangerously short response times. Their message is urgent: AI experts and nuclear experts need to start talking to each other now, before the technology makes any conversation moot.


    Links to learn more, video, and full transcript: https://80k.info/swlnl

    This episode was recorded on November 24, 2025.

    Chapters:

    • Cold open (00:00:00)
    • Who are Nikita Lalwani and Sam Winter-Levy? (00:01:03)
    • How nuclear deterrence actually works (00:01:46)
    • AI vs nuclear submarines (00:10:31)
    • AI vs road-mobile missiles (00:22:21)
    • AI vs missile defence systems (00:28:38)
    • AI vs nuclear command, control, and communications (NC3) (00:35:20)
    • AI won't break deterrence, but may trigger an arms race (00:43:27)
    • Technological supremacy isn't political supremacy (00:52:31)
    • Fast AI takeoff creates dangerous "windows of vulnerability" (00:56:43)
    • Book and movie recommendations (01:08:53)

    Video and audio editing: Dominic Armstrong, Milo McGuire, Luke Monsour, and Simon Monsour
    Music: CORBIT
    Coordination, transcripts, and web: Nick Stockton and Katy Moore

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    1 hora e 11 minutos
  • Using AI to enhance societal decision making (article by Zershaaneh Qureshi)
    Mar 6 2026

    The arrival of AGI could “compress a century of progress in a decade,” forcing humanity to make decisions with higher stakes than we’ve ever seen before — and with less time to get them right. But AI development also presents an opportunity: we could build and deploy AI tools that help us think more clearly, act more wisely, and coordinate more effectively. And if we roll these decision-making tools out quickly enough, humanity could be far better equipped to navigate the critical period ahead.

    This article is narrated by the author, Zershaaneh Qureshi. It explores why AI decision-making tools could be a big deal, who might be a good fit to help shape this new field, and what the downside risks of getting involved might be.

    Read the original article on the 80,000 Hours website: https://80000hours.org/problem-profiles/ai-enhanced-decision-making/

    Chapters:

    • Check out our new narrations feed (00:00:00)
    • Summary (00:01:21)
    • Section 1: Why advancing AI decision making tools might matter a lot (00:02:52)
    • AI tools could help us make much better decisions (00:05:59)
    • We might be able to differentially speed up the rollout of AI decision making tools (00:11:04)
    • Section 2: What are the arguments against working to advance AI decision making tools? (00:13:17)
    • Section 3: How to work in this area (00:26:19)
    • Want one-on-one advice? (00:29:50)

    Audio editing: Dominic Armstrong and Milo McGuire

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    31 minutos
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