As Donald Trump returns to the White House, Akshat Rathi speaks to Yale historian Paul Sabin about whether recent presidential history might hold some lessons on what to expect from the Trump administration’s approach to energy and environmental policy this term. Looking back at the Carter and Reagan years, Sabin explores how present-day Trump priorities– from dismantling government agencies to ramping up oil and gas production–have historical precedent. And Jonathan Lash, who was an environmental lawyer in the Reagan years, explains why he’s feeling déjà vu in these early days of Trump’s second term.

Explore further:

• Past episode with sci-fi writer Kim Stanley Robinson about his visions for climate politics in 2025
• Past episode with President Biden’s climate czar Ali Zaidi on the IRA’s legacy
• Past episode with Congressman Ro Khanna on what Trump’s second term may hold

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